He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. Instead of bashing us, why dont you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? not sure I agree . The few times Ive brought him up myself (this is really on Reddit) I have been ripped apart for my apparent stupidity. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid. The event, entitled New and Old Wars, New and Old Challenges to Peace, takes place from 7 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. on Wednesday at McKenna Hall in rooms 215/216. 13 Investigates has learned that the connection of the Delphi murders to the "anthony_shots" fake social media profile started with another incident reported to police just days after the bodies of Libby German and Abby Williams were discovered in February 2017. If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. . Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. He hunted deer on RLs land all the time. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). At least two prior marriages. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. The sketch of the younger man is the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? Dont pay any attention to that.. Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. The girls hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. Ron Logan: Enough already. These are simply unverified rumors. Police: Right and you know you talker (sic) to her and you admitted to talking to her? LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. Could be to cover their own asses. Why dont you do a show on our theories. Theyre not that common. Of course they would look for that. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. The others are guardians. Anyway, pastor in a Pentecostal church would be a perfect place for a man like that because those religious people dont care much about Alpha, Beta, and all that stuff. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. Its $20. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? So, to end my novel, I agree with you. Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! Police: Umm you had told investigators umm and I know you say you dont remember a girl that you ever talked to but I know you remember Liberty German? Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Im sure that was a LOL feeling for him. The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. Also, the props were put at the scene later too, perhaps after the girls were killed. Suspect in Delphi Snapchat Murders [Wanted Poster] By: Christine Colby Related To: Abductions. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, its awfully thin. But know, this is deliberate. to find the killer or team of killers. He had been there that morning too. Published February 2, 2023 12:52pm EST Indiana prosecutors say Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen should not be released on bail Richard Allen, 50, is accused of killing 14-year-old Liberty. If I were LE, I would take a long, hard look at Rick Brown in Delphi, Indiana. While we see a giant plush bear, thats too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. Almost zero. Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. Sectionals kicked off on Tuesday night for Indiana high school boys basketball teams! Dime a dozen. The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. This is a community where we can speak openly about the murders of Libby and Abby while searching for justice. That can only mean one thing. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. (Mugshot source: Indiana State Police) Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime: Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collectors item. Nobody has been arrested in the case but details have slowly been revealed about. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. Theres only one parent. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.: Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. These idiot cops. Forgive me if Ive missed this, but whats keeping police from arresting this guy? I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. Apparently. People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. Latest: heartanium. I read most of those posts over there and of course I read any post about me. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. I read your recent blogs about the Delphi murders, and you have a ton of info. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home. I see hot, humid conditions. Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. Hmm . Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. and that you think he already knew that they would be there.. We doubt if she did contact his wife. A log was placed in front of one of the girls, and a doll was placed in front of the other girl. Thanks, Mike! Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. Lists a factory as place of residence. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. Hi there, have just come across your work and am interested in joining the private group. The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. This may extend to age 15. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. The main suspect is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims families to offer solace for their losses. See the sort of games these guys play? So who is Mr. X? BG is a 50 year old man. Its buried under settlement and underbrush. An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! However, the other three have only peripheral involvement and may have committed no crime! He was very fearful and it really hit him hard how he got treated on that Reddit sub. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? MIAMI COUNTY, Ind. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. We dont just look at the Delphi case here. I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? I just like to take this opportunity to thank the Mods in making this subreddit Delphimurders readable again and to the posters who post informative, well thought out COMMENTS. Let me jump in here. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! Just thought I would draw your attention to it. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. Copyright 2022 WPTA. Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. Maybe he sent it to Libbys phone. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? The move, which takes effect immediately, comes as insulin makers continue to face pressure from members of Congress and advocacy groups to lower the cost of the lifesaving medication. We openly admit that much of what we are saying about this crime are unverified rumors. That is the statement from the woman on the search team. Thats the price you pay to live in a free society. It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. He does not work there at the moment. If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. The Top of the Line: Studebakers President features Studebakers premier model that debuted in 1927. Gull set aside June 15 and June 16, if needed for a bail hearing for Allen. Because that is a deer kit around his waist. Similar murder conditions. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. And possibly even other rapes and homicides. Mr. X did not have PIV sex with either girl. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. Robert, I believe Mr. X has an ex-wife. Thats very embarrassing. Would you please email me? 43 seconds of audio. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. Im a real nice guy, I treat my commenters well, and Im basically this mild-mannered, unassuming, intellectual, professor type. I am featuring a world renowned psychic detective through an interview Ill be conducting tomorrow. The Delphi Murders: Four years later Libby & Abby's killer is still out there By: Katie Cox Posted at 1:57 AM, Feb 14, 2021 and last updated 8:54 AM, Feb 04, 2022 DELPHI - The year 2021 should be filled with cap & gowns, graduation parties, and college choices for Libby German and Abby Williams. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! Im confused. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. He was also being investigated as a possible suspect in the kidnapping and murders of . It has those wooden, beaded seat covers. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. Robert Lindsay isnt just one guy. Homeless for a period in the 2000s, where he resided at a homeless shelter. Thats because he was competition. We dont know why he asked permission to search Ron Logans land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. Thank you! Stay tuned. A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene. No one else reacted that way. I ask this because another theory says they could have gone up the creek to a barn and then they should have dry clothes. If so, why? Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. Gas station attendant noticed something off with him, but hasnt made the connection! As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. Theres no evidence that Tony Kline has ever been a suspect or has ever been interviewed by the police. Im so sorry. Welcome to the site! . Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? Its all about the zero-sum game. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. Thats a full 18 hours. But we are not naming person. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime. I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. And I appear quite harmless, too. Pay minimum of $20 for lifetime membership to our group. Is he into numerology? TX TX - Colorado Co, WhtFem 27-43, UP4564, pink chiffon blouse, gray flannel pants, sandal, Jan'76. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. But the police are having a very hard time gathering enough evidence against this man to take it to court. Drunkard perhaps. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls guardians. Much more on that below. Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. I find your blog very interesting. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2019/09/20/support-beyond-highbrow/. Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. Lawyered up, not talking. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. February 27, 2023. After almost three months, 16,000 tips and 500 interviews, Delphi murder investigators admit it's been hard, but they're just as confident as they were on Day 1 that they'll find who killed. Police found the girls lifeless bodies a short distance from the bridge the following day, near a trail close to the bridge. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. Police questioned Kegan Kline about the incident during an Aug. 19, 2020, interview at the Indiana State . Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! No, they are obviously looking for photos and videos that the killer took as part of this crime. Oh, one more thing. Abby was the one that had the boyfriend. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. Ive followed your articles over the past four years and find your insight quite interesting! He took an undocumented deer trail and evaded the encountering of any individual upon his departure. Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. So Id just as soon stop looking at him as a suspect. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Rons land and killed them there. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. They just think its a sin that needs to be overcome. Possibly works with kids. As CrimeOnline previously reported, 13-year-old Abby and Indeed, he has been questioned and he is cooperating fully with the investigation. Could be something more nefarious. Otherwise why do we have religions? But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. We reported them one year before it came out in the media that they were all true. Latest: Hope32. You mentioned that the police are allowed to lie to the public. You might consider joining us in our private group. Although his face isnt clear in the picture, it was enough to give authorities a general description. Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. I have one more message for you. Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. Its not clear how? Forget it. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two best. I think he may have had over 1,000 photos/videos on his drives or possibly more. All rights reserved. He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! Our reporting. INDIANAPOLIS Indiana State Police say his personal pictures were used to lure young girls - a cop, victimized in a catfish scheme and suddenly thrust into the Delphi murders investigation. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. The rejoinders also say that either he never lost his keys or he did and he called the wife to bring a spare, and she did, evidence being the police scanner. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. I tend to think its a doll. Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. If the father was an underage boy, Im not sure anyone cares. I dont know if Mr. X is part of the groups promoting the trail system, but for some reason, I doubt it. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. Here are hosts Andrew Iden and Barbara MacDonald, with more on what to expect over the course of the. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. You write an article saying some guys not involved, and you get swamped with threats to track and hunt you down? Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. Shameful. Have for a long time. . The conviction is expunged. 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! It said she was coming to deliver the keys. KAK and his Dad. 242? You do a great job! Privacy Policy. Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. Not so much for 15 year old girls. Pay at least $20 for lifetime membership to my PayPal. He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. By the way, whats a legitimate journalist? Whats a illegitimate journalist? Theres no such thing as either. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. 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