Archeologists have put these ruins from the first century BCE and the first century CE. They were elites. In other words either the evidence no longer exists (no problem) or Thamudic dwellings in North West Arabia are yet to be discovered. The Quran and quoted Hadiths indicate that the buildings of the Thamud were visible at the time of the Prophet () as signs to the Arabs. In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. I feel there may be some misconception about how to view Quran. There is a popular historical show in Saudi Arabia with Eid Al-Yahya where they visit the area of Madain Saleh and he definitely makes a credible case showing that Madain Saleh has indications of being built by Thamud, but being used and completed by the Nabateans. The Story of Adam (The First Man) _ part 1. The most striking thing about the Thamud was the huge buildings and structures they built into the sides of mountains. And take for yourselves palaces and fortresses that you may abide eternally?Chapter 26, Verses 128 129. This structure is not only large enough to house several individuals, but contains benches which suggests that it served some social function, hence it can qualify to be called a place of dwelling. He said, "My people, just think: if I did have clear proof from my Lord, and if He had given me mercy of His own, who could protect me from God if I disobeyed Him? I hope the Christians, after having read this, will decide to do whats ethical and moral. So Ad lives in a mountainous country with lush valleys; and they made altars on the mountains. But unlike most of the others, these two stand out for not having any clear counterpart in the Judeo-Christian tradition a wellspring of Middle Eastern traditions, of which Islam draws in so small measure. It doesnt speak about being touched or untouched. They are of Arab origin, but now of mixed blood mostly with Nilo-Saharans and Nubians. The Thamud were scientists. While every effort has been made to follow citation style rules, there may be some discrepancies. Indeed, the Quran states that many generations came after the first tribe of Thamud without specifying an exact timeline. [25] The Arab tribes of Maqil migrated to the Maghreb a century later and even immigrated southwards to Mauritania. They may believe in Allah and may even worship Him in some ways. [20] The traditional Muslim view is that the destruction of Thamud occurred before the prophethood of Abraham. He replaced the people of the Flood with the Aad and then replaced the Aad with the Thamud. What we do know is that the Nabateans lived a nomadic life style. In my opinion this is an argument that Muslims have to tackle thoroughly due to its ease of presentation by non-Muslims and (hypothetical) explanatory power. Allah says: `Say, O Muhammad, to these idolators who disbelieve in the message of truth that you have brought: If you turn away from that which I have brought to you from Allah, then I warn you of the punishment of Allah like the . Verses 15:80-83describe its inhabitants as carving their homes out of mountains and being decimated by a loud shriek characteristics ascribed by the Quran elsewhere to the people of Thamud2. There was a long period of royal authority and sedentary culture. In the worst cases, they may even go so far as to challenge Allah. Some Muslims have mistakenly equated sites such as these with the first Thamud of the Quran, but it is believed by archaeologists that a different group of people called the Nabataeans, in fact, built some of these sites. And indeed we do, but with an unexpected twist! These people were very wealthy and wielded great power. What do u think? They were successors to the People of Noah. 1. So you could see the people therein fallen as if they were hollow trunks of palm trees. Point by Ismail about the order of the messengers from earliest to latest also is something to ponder over and maybe the people of the Hijr are different from the Thamud. They may have later acquired Hellenistic techniques and applied them on their structures. Ignore the entire thing and continue to spread their deception and lies. The Bible Assalam alikum forget the rest of what Ive put down but I was just wondering does 36:41 prove that every one on the earth comes from the people of tge ark if yes then how does that work because people could still see thamud dwellings so that means they could only come thousands of years of go but we know noah had to come near them but we know humans have been here at least 40 thousand bc so how do we explain this, Assalam alikum thanks for the answers but thamud had to be destroyed no lesser than 3000 bc not 800 bc jazzakallah because thamud came before Abraham jazzakallah but thanks, Also if the quran says the area is wadi al qura then madian al saleh is not wadi al qura jazzakallah but thanks, But of course in there empire day they would of probably built in wadi al qura and al ula and madian al saleh and else where in there area because they would of had a large population any where between 20 thousand to 50 thousand people because mekkah and median together came to 20-40 thousand people in the prophets day and 40:21 says these people were more in population so they had to be more than mekkah and median, Assalam alikum also dies 7:74 mean that Thamud were the descendents of ad or not or were they they descendents of ad jazzakallah. The facades vary in height and in the richness of their decorations. And perhaps, using the knowledge, culture, and technology from the Aad, they established a new society. The terror you inspire They very well could be the predecessors of the Edomites as they lived around the same area, and according to the Bible, they practiced the tradition of carving dwellings into the rocks. [16] Scarcity of water and of permanent pastoral land required them to move constantly. [5] In 1846, many Arab Rashaida migrated from Hejaz in present-day Saudi Arabia into what is now Eritrea and north-east Sudan after tribal warfare had broken out in their homeland. They are often discussed when Allah is directing our attention to people who disobeyed Him and were punished as a result. Aben Ezra thinks that caph, the note of similitude, is wanting; and that the sense is, thou thoughtest that Mount Seir could secure thee, as they that dwell in the clefts of a rock: whose habitation [is] high; upon high rocks and mountains, such as Mount Seir was, where Esau dwelt, and his posterity after, him. you will be utterly despised. The tribes of Ad and Thamud were ancient people who existed on the Arabian Peninsula many centuries ago and were recipients of the Prophets Hud and Salih, respectively. 2. 14. See the video here (arabic): https://youtu.be/yjRjkjQ-VEA, Me however I lean towards that Madain Saleh is not the place for the Quranic Thamud like Dr Thiaeb (linguist of ancient arabic and archeologist) has been repeatedly saying at least since 1995, because among other reasons that Madain Saleh lacks all the marks of Gods wrath, the earth quake levelling Thamud etc. From some understanding, it is derived that Thamud were an ancient Arab people well before Musa (as) and possibly well before Ibrahim (as) and hence the tombs (no dwellings to be seen in the present day ruins) must be very ancient and not recent like the Nabataeans. Question:What is the correct explanation for the P --* _ . The wordings themselves state so and all the tafaseer also state this. Being Dutiful to Parents: Islamic knowledge, The Door to Eternal Paradise: Islamic knowledge. Pickthall And (the tribes of) A'ad and Thamud! 4) That the ORIGINAL dwellings in the valley were Thamuds but Nabateans built them further. I just had the chance to look at the comments now and I dont seem to understand the problem here. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The Quranic tribes of Aad and Thamud a historical perspective. "[22] The stone constructions of Hegra are actually mostly from the Nabataean period, especially the first century CE. How do we explain 27:52 29:38 22:45 28:58 91:14, Assalam alie kum, it is a good attempt to answer the criticism of the of the people who have always found some crookedness to stand their point against Islam. It is not specific to the 2 Arab tribes. I do understand why most Christians are unaware of the fine details interspersed within the ponderous and drawn-out book. But I digress. According to the Quran and the Islamic exegetical tradition, the Thamud were an early Arab tribe who rejected the message of the prophet Salih. The Quran does not make any claim about the historicity of specific sites, but rather enjoins the believers to reflect upon the many ruins of idolatrous societies throughout Arabia as a lesson in the futility of disobedience to Allah. Yet how can we prove that there was a Prophet sent to them since Allah SWT does not punish a nation without sending one? Summary: The cravings that Quran says were done by Thamud were in Wad l-Qura. In other words either the evidence no longer exists (no problem) or Thamudic dwellings in North West Arabia are yet to be discovered. Man, you must be crazy. Can it be said that the Thamud made wells and their successors i.e. Or just left a lot of material in the land 7. Previous ones may have fallen and replaced by Nabateans but during the time of the Prophet (), there did remain buildings of Thamud and who knows, they might still be there today but undiscovered by archaeologists. Dont ignore them. The title People of al-Hijr was, therefore, that of Nabateans who came much late in history and their period overlapped with Thamud-II, the remnants of Thamud-I, the subject of Quran.[5]. While certain online Christian communities are abuzz with elation and glee, some Muslims are faced with difficulties in formulating a proper response to the latest Christian accusation. Are you telling us to change our religion from our fathers relgion? [15], But despite the presence of a tribe called the Thamud as late as the fourth century, sixth-century Arab poets whose works are preserved in post-Islamic sources were already referring to the Thamud as an ancient and long-lost tribe whose very name recalled the transience of all things. After the destruction of Ad, Thamud succeeded them in power and grandeur. [7][8] In a somewhat muddled passage, Pliny the Elder, a Roman historian of the first century CE, appears to locate the Thamd at the unidentified inland town of "Baclanaza". And Ad and Thamud-it must be clear to you from their dwelling places! There is a place called Khyber at Pakistan/Afghanistan border but that is NOT the Khyber of Madina. 10.can al hijr be somewhere else like al ula Witch out of these 7 does it sound more what the verses are saying or does it mean something other than these 7 The Kingdom of Thamud was the first existing kingdom on the Arabian peninsula, according to Assyrian and Roman sources. How archeologists date the tombs and other structures is primarily based on the inscriptions found in them. Arabian tradition holds that the Thamud kingdom was destroyed by God. The Nabateans who made the carvings in Madain Saleh and Petra, as well as other Arab groups like the Dedanites/Lihyanites, are their successors. Their dwellings remained but very partially There existed a nation called the Edomites. [34][35] Tribalism is a significant characteristic of Arab population in Khuzestan.[36]. It is argued that the Quran and the Prophet () made an error in history and facts[1]. that that Thamud did it then the edomites took over then the nabteaons but all I know is that Thamud existed before 3000 bc so 3000 bc is probably when they were destroyed then the edomites revamped them made them look new then the nabteaons did the same and I believe the tribe of ad was destroyed weather 5-8 thousand bc and I believe noahs flood was around the ending off the ice age what was between 10-13 thousand bc became the population of the world was only 1 million at 10 thousand bc and no more than 20 million people at 5000 bc what makes stuff interesting but as a side note if the quran does say that noahs people was the first to commit shirk then ad then thamud but none at the same time or between then thamud had to come before 9000 bc so that was when they would be destroyed because the gobeki tepe was built then and that was definitely pagan shirk but this is my opion but thanks, And of course ad was the descendents of noah and thamud was the descendents of ad. There are countless artists, pundits, and celebrities who mock Allah, His Messenger (pbuh), and Islam. MALIK'S MUWATTA, BOOK 9: Shortening the Prayer || __ - . In fact, they are no recognised as Nabatean tombs, resembling the earlier more primitive ones among those to be seen at Petra in present day Jordan, not the late elaborately carved Greco-Roman facades. Well, next to nothing. But it was hamstrung and eventually killed by nine people of Thamud, who then attempted but failed to kill Salih himself. Hud ( ) was sent to Ad and after their destruction, Thamud inherited the land. The Thamd were known from contemporary sources to have occupied parts of the Hejaz region, and later Islamic tradition holds that they settled on the slopes of Mount Athlab. This is the temple that was built by the tribal unit of Thamud, the leaders of their unit, so that it might be established by their hands and be their place of veneration for ever7. So Ill let that one go for another article and focus on the main discussion, the Aad and Thamud. Archaeologists should do their job the way they do and in case of any finding, they can confirm whether it conflicts with the Quran or not; if it does not, then there is nothing wrong to proceed with it further but if it does, then archaeology needs to be further examined however, such an occurrence would never happen since the Quran is from God. [20] The Arabs of the caliphate accommodated many new tribes in isolated areas to avoid conflict with the locals; caliph Uthman ordered his governor, Muawiyah I, to settle the new tribes away from the original population. And perhaps, over the generations, these people developed their own magnificent society with its own special hallmarks and characteristics. [23] The ninth-century Muslim scholar Ibn Sad believed that the Thamud were the Nabateans. Saudi Arabia, in terms of archaeology, is really untouched. After the Arab conquest of Persia in the 7th century, many Arab tribes settled in different parts of Iran, notably Khurasan and Ahwaz, it is the Arab tribes of Khuzestan that have retained their identity in language and culture to the present day while other Arabs especially in Khurasan were slowly Persianised. Or there fallen down relics were better than yours in the past but not better now. And of course, they were also polytheists. Then, his progeny, and his people, came to be known by the name of ` Ad. What is the issue here? A. Yusuf Ali wrote: The Thamud people were destroyed by a dreadful earthquake which threw them prone on the ground and buried them with their houses and their fine buildings., A terrible earthquake came and buried the people [of Thamud] and destroyed their boasted civilization. He said, O my people, worship Allah; you have no deity other than Him. Of course, only Allah knows the truth. Seeking blessings from relics of the righteous? (LogOut/ Rise, let us go against her for battle [26] The Arab descendants of the original Arabian settlers who continue to speak Arabic as a first language currently form the single largest population group in North Africa. Also there were no prophets between Isa AS and Muhammad SAW which is another issue to clarify. Just leave her alone. A Reminder of the Story of `Ad and Thamd By Ibn Kathir - Fri 14 Muharram 1425 (5 Mar 2004) 0 5604 Explanation: means, they were arrogant, stubborn and disobedient. There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger . This is because Prophet Ismail (AS) is often considered to be the father of Arabs just like Prophet Ishaaq/Isaac (AS) is considered to be the father of the Israelites. It is large enough to house individuals, should they have chosen to live inside them. The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee The coloring of (sedentary culture) established itself firmly. 1. (2/380-381), The inscriptions of al-Hijr are the remnants of the Nabateans. . The Thamud were the successors of the Aad. They may have even intermingled to the point of losing any distinction along ethnic lines as there is no good reason or evidence to preclude the idea that the Thamud also ventured and lived in Petra and the surrounding areas. It does not state, however, who made the inscriptions. Indeed, we see in you foolishness and indeed, we think you are of the liars.Chapter 7, Verse 66, Have you come to us that we should worship Allah and leave what our fathers worshiped? The ruined abandoned wells and ruined lofty palaces were present at the time of the Prophet (). They mistreated the lower classes and worshiped others besides Allah. If the Bible tells us nothing more, at least it illustrates that carving out structures on mountains predated the Nabateans, and that is all we need to refute the Christian allegation against the Quran. 15. Claim that the Edomites are not Thamud thus the verses are irrelevant. Assalam alikum so is 89:9 present tense or past tense the altheana jabbu al sakrah bilwadi bit and you are saying that the thamud dwellings have gone destroyed after the prophets time, And Is madain al saleh wadi alQura or is wadi alqura some where else, And do you think there houses were destroyed before or after ibn kathir and could the land of thamud be petra ir yemon because there is a town called thamud in yemon, And does 27:52 mean there dwellings were destroyed or empty and could 89:9 mean there dwellings just of been caves in the prophets the outside gone fallen if you know what I mean and can. [Quran11:6168(Abdel Haleem)], The Islamic exegetical tradition adds detail to the Quran's account. [24] Whether the poem is genuinely by Umayya or is a post-Islamic creation is a matter of debate. [15] A major source of income for these people was the taxation of caravans, and tributes collected from non-Bedouin settlements. Other later Arab migrations in Iran include the mostly cross Gulf migrations of Arabs into Hormozgan and Fars provinces from modern day eastern Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States, post 16th century. 3 The pride of your heart has deceived you, As regarding to the Ahadith from Ibn Umar (as), they seem to be a interpretation of him itself, the prophet (as) says nothing about them. I have yet to find a shred of evidence of a dead body that was placed in any of the recesses in the walls. Mostafa Badawi, in his book Ancient Prophets of Arabiasays thatthe people ofThamdlived in the 8th century BCE in the al-Hijr region and were destroyed. They lived in the kingdom of Edom, which is about 200 or so miles from Madian Saleh, where, supposedly, the Quranic Thamud lived, although the Thamud could have lived in multiple areas, including Petra 3. due to the belief as mentioned in the Quran that warners were sent to all Nations. And they used to carve from the mountains, houses, feeling secure. [16] It is possible that the Thamud were not one tribe, and that other tribes took on the name of Thamd after the original tribe by that name had gone extinct. Assalamualaikum what do u think of the carbon dating and the presence of wells? They trace their lineage to Abbas, uncle of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. [29] The second Arab tribal migration to northern Mesopotamia was in the 10th century when the Banu Numayr migrated there. The above article contained links to images which do not show up in here after I copied and pasted them from my ms word. The Quran on the Cerebrum: _ Qur'an and Science. [30], In the 12th century, the Arab Ja'alin tribe migrated into Nubia and Sudan and formerly occupied the country on both banks of the Nile from Khartoum to Abu Hamad. According to Arab tradition, the Adnanites are called Arabised because it is believed that Ishmael Spoke Aramaic and Egyptian then learnt Arabic from a Qahtanite Yemeni woman that he married. Thats it. As for their dates, I do not know and it is not necessary that they would have to be very close to each other. 11. Another inscription from the same temple mentions Aad by name, and reads, by Ghawth son of Aslah son of Thokam and he constructed the temple of Allt, of the people of Ad. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Verily, Thamud disbelieved in their Lord. Jazak Allah, Ok thanks jazzakkallah that about it thanks but out of the 8 theorys I put down before witch one would you pick to be the best interpretation thanks and when you say (archaic) do you mean that are civilization is better then the people of AD relics or the other way round that there relics are better than are houses or do you just mean there relics are better then the mekkahans houses and madian houses etc I didnt really understand you by that bit but thanks for your helping jazzakkallah. Its like me living in a house, then someone tears it down and then builds another house and says Abdullah used to live in that house while the fact is that I did not. Of course there are lessons to be taken from the stories of these two nations. You may look at any tafsir, these Ayaat are general and simply refer to destroyed civilisations which may be Indus Valley (Mohenjodaro, Harappa), Sodom, and Pompeii among many others. Also if it is in the present it makes it sound there buildings were like brand new like not destroyed etc, This is it then Im done but thank you very much for answering my questions jazzakkallah, 3. 27:52 is in present tense. Prophet Muhammad () descended from Ismail ( ), http://www.imgrum.org/media/1483126817820752683_724804649, http://saudi-archaeology.com/sites/madain-saleh/, The blind companion and killing of the concubine, Islamic identity of Rm (Rome) and Romans II, The Benefits of the Presence of Ambiguous Verses in the Quran, Islamic Stance on Astrology and its related Sciences. Thamd, in ancient Arabia, tribe or group of tribes known to be extant from the 8th century bce to the 5th century ce. Instead, they tried to engage Salih in debate. As menitoned earlier, the Aad were a strong, brutish, and conquering people. May even go so far as to challenge Allah some misconception about how to Quran. 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