One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. It'll be operated quite differently. The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. The British Isles in my old school geography books included the island of Ireland but I wouldn't have said that in my recent visit to the country! Heh. Great Britain's railway system was built by private companies, but it was nationalised by the Transport Act 1947 and was run from then onwards by British Railways (which traded as British Rail from 1965) until privatisation, which was begun in 1994 and completed in 1997. This was later modified for locomotives allocated to the Civil Engineer's department to include a yellow stripe on the upper bodyside, the resulting livery being known as "Dutch" due to its similarity to the corporate colours of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen.[18]. Apple Green. It's only as complicated as you want it to be. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. GBR is currently running a competition to find a town or city outside London to host its headquarters. Launched as the London & South East Sector "Express Livery" this was a short-lived scheme which appeared on a limited amount of units and routes before the advent of Network SouthEast's "toothpaste" red white and blue striped livery. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains. Agree, having at least 'intercity', 'regional' and 'metro' would be good. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago. The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. I said this on another thread, but this is definitely a more appropriate one. [5][6], The new GBR organisation was proposed under the WilliamsShapps Rail Review,[7] which was published as a white paper on 20 May 2021. You are using an out of date browser. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. The history of British Rail's corporate liveries is quite complex. Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. There is also a British Standard paint colour BS381C 114 called Rail Blue which was introduced in 1964. Much closer to what I was meaning (thanks. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. Variants to the national brand will be developed to refect the English regions, Scotland and Wales, while emphasising that the railway is one network serving the whole of Great Britain. The government has promised to base the organisation outside London to promote economic growth and skills in a region beyond the capital. In 2001, as passenger work for diesel locomotives operated by Virgin CrossCountry came to an end, a number of their Class 47s were painted in "heritage" liveries that they had carried in the past, including the former D1733, now 47853, which once again carried a near-correct version of the XP64 livery. This competition aimed to identify a place with a rich railway heritage, strong links to the national network and significant public support, while creating a great opportunity to promote the location as the proud home for the start of a new era in Britains railways. The colours were chosen to be different from those of any of the "Big Four" pre-nationalisation railway companies while retaining a traditional aspect. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. Also, yes, the actual report has a typo, it really does say 'refect' instead of 'reflect'. It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: . You are using an out of date browser. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. I wonder if you could make a hybrid of the two? No.47373 in revised Railfreight "red stripe" livery. Class 52 No.D1015 restored to 1960's Western Region Maroon livery. [18] GBR will own all infrastructure in Scotland and Wales that Network Rail owns now. The attachments illustrate this. The first and second MKC signs are pretty classy and look good. Steam locomotive 61306 Mayflower seen just outside Sittingbourne, Kent at lunchtime today. A later version made minor changes to the livery, the main one of which was to darken the main shade of blue used. for some form of co-branding. The Great British Railways Transition Team is developing a range of rail freight growth target options. It's good work (and the previous set). The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. [11][12], The location for GBR's headquarters is currently being determined. I suspect not many. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Heh. Home Forums Goodbye. Today I would like to make a rather general suggestion rather than something specific. For Station signage that is supposed to be functional and informative above all else, I don't see too much wrong with this. As part of this work, the team engaged with industry through a formal call for evidence. [16] A public vote was held following the announcement.[16]. Rail alphabet had the advantage of being clear, legible and was pretty much consistently applied. I'd go along with that from a "looks right" perspective, but it would be almost impossible to see from (for instance) inside a train in darkness. What possible negatives are there to none enthusiasts? There just isn't room on a well functioning railway for true competition, so you might as well focus on the passenger experience, not the rail operator experience. The double arrow is still overused, though. Another Class 52, No.D1015 Western Champion was delivered in another, darker yellow/brown colour described as 'Golden Ochre', though somewhat different from that applied to D5579. They are an intercity operator. . 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I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). It may not display this or other websites correctly. Existing leases of stations to devolved transport authorities will continue. But Beatties second charge is more interesting. Not so much the modern LNER though. Great British Railways: The Williams-Shapps Plan for Rail (print version) Ref: ISBN 978-1-5286-2465-7 , CCS0321182446 05/21 , CP 423 PDF , 55.8 MB , 112 pages Order a copy [4] This was referred to as the InterCity Executive livery as the sets used were dedicated to operating morning/evening services operated for businesspeople. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Regional divisions will manage concession contracts, stations, infrastructure, and local and regional budgets, integrate track and train, and integrate rail with local transport services. The livery comprised brown upper panels with a colour described variously as "biscuit" or "fawn" along the lower panels and separated by a broad orange band. Class 14s D9537 (in desert sand livery) and D9539 prepare a double-head a train on the Ribble Steam Railway. | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. On the face of it, this is primarily a reorganisation of the franchise system in England control over passenger franchises in Scotland and Wales is, alas, devolved. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Lima class 47 D1574 British Rail Green Livery UNBOXED at the best online prices at eBay! Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked . It will become a single familiar brand with a bold new vision for passengers - of punctual services, simpler tickets. If only we were to see a coherent joined up livery scheme to run nationwide like the picture above , however I rather suspect this will not be the case. Why could GBR franchises not do the same? Why? BRs own history says otherwise. I agree I think the NR logo in the circle looks better, but GBR is such a mouthful - its just latent fear of the British Rail brand. In May 2022, the Government announced proposed legislation to modernise rail services and improve reliability for passengers. I'm inclined to disagree. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; It really wouldn't. Why do most people go for a car that is mostly all one single colour. 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