The fruit can stand some pretty hard freezes. @Bear_with_me how did you know yates persimmon is good varieties for Pacific Northwest before starting to plant it? It is hardier than any of the Asian persimmons we offer. It was in the ground about 4 years and grew a foot or maybe foot and a half. This is about the 5th year for this tree, 3rd year for bearing fruit. Plants were clearly in a smaller container and recently transplanted to the larger one. Probably the most widely planted fruit tree in the world, Persimmons are found throughout Asia in almost every yard and orchard. This is about the 5th year for this tree, 3rd year for bearing fruit. Persimmon (NIkita's Gift) Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 34.99; Persimmon Tree (Early Fuyu) . ALL RIGHTS RESERVED -. The American persimmon (Diospyros virginiana) is a slow-growing, moderately sized tree fruit native to the forests of Kentucky. Your best bet for self fruitful one variety is probably Meader or Szukis. Do they have to be mushy to be ripe? It is an excellent choice for the deep South and South Texas. I have seen this before. Then came the Japanese beetles that love this tree and a nearby TamKam. Havent had problems with japanese beetles on it although I have plum trees a few steps away that the beetles have been hitting so Id agree with whats been said in that regard. I'm tolerant of astringency, I eat raw aronia berries. But to round things up you also need Kaki persimmon (for example, Jiro),fig (Celeste, Hardy Chicago, etc) and currants. I didn't think it had very much flavor compared to the rich flavor and texture of Prairie fruit. Large fruit, and for whatever reason the birds seem to be leaving it alone.Think you might want to consider aronia, if you're looking for an easy care, very nutritious fruit.Consider wineberries for the shaded areas? Probably a seedling of Great Wall, it is very hardy. It is a little extra care but the final product is all worth it (Kaki in zone 5). Add the bypass destination information to the template file. Redhawk. Strawberry Tree (1) Gift Certificates (1) Herbs (15) Alliums . I'll pick the second one at a softer stage and the third one even softer. Not sure whats wrong. I've eaten lots of american persimmons. Personally, I think most of my virginiana cultivars taste better.Jerry Lehman, at Terre Haute, says that Nikita's Gift is larger fruiting than Rosseyanka, has nice red color, earlier ripening - and is delicious. It did not like something about my soil or climate. I hope your theory is correct and it will produce fruit next year, being so tall and all:). The fruit have exceptionally sweet flavor when ripe (you'll know when they fall off the tree). They were slightly purple. Pretty clean leaves. I dont really worry about the damage to the ornamentals in the yard . When I bought Saijo, it was from Raintree. Apparently they dont mind Neem. Has a unique spicy-sweet flavor that instantly evokes images of cinnamon pastry, hot coffee and morning sunshine. I have 4 non-astringent Asian Persimmons. It also has spectacular fall foliage color. Persimmons are normally dioecious, and female trees require cross-pollination to produce fruit. Saijo is considered by some to be the best flavored. American persimmons grow very well in my yard. In the same yard, Ichi Ki Kei Jiro (Asian) also produces lots of seedless fruit -- no seeds at all. Both are smaller trees just 10-15 feet in height with an abundance of smaller fruit. Now, in my night-time check Ill find maybe 2 on it, so Im making some progress, but there isnt a leaf left on it that hasnt been chewed on. It's 3/4 Kaki I believe. However, I have not had many JB for the past 3 -4 years. 'Shogatsu' is flattened, non-astringent, of fair quality; bears an abundance of male flowers. I protected this baby by wrapped it with a large tarp from home depot and stuffed it with leafs in November. My Saijo are similar size to Nikitas gift, and smaller than store bought Fuyu. Register. Maybe because of your online information. Rootstock: American Persimmon (Diospyros virginiana) that is about the height where my three others started bearing. I'm going to try grafting and budding to the. Meader is probably the most brittle of all the varieties, so it is a risk to grow it. I picked the Nikita tonight and was very impressed. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Persimmons Nikita's Gift vs. Saijo and Yates in Pacific NW. This is the first year it has produced anything to speak of. The variety most often found in stores. But pretty care free. Nurseries around areas always sold out Nikitas gift persimmon. I ate some and picked most out. All of these have grown minimally the past two season only puting on maybe 2-3" of growth per branch. Nikita's Gift Persimmon Tree $44.99 Scarlet Sentinel Columnar Apple $59.99 Greensleeves Apple $49.99 Flavortop Nectarine $59.99 Reine de Mirabelle European Plum $32.99 Shenandoah Paw Paw $32.99 Raintree Brunswick Fig $59.99 Seuri Asian Pear $59.99 Hendre Huffcapp European Perry Pear $30.99 Nordland Fig $44.99 Golden Treat Urban Columnar Apple Nikita's Gift tastes more like Asian persimmon. I actually prefer the better American astringent persimmons to the Nikita's on flavor and texture, but I, My Nikita's Gift is setting it's first crop, 24 very hard, pink-orange fruits. this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including Hello , can anyone recommend a nursery where I can buy a Nikitas, Location: Western WA (Zone 8B - temperate maritime), Another western WA nursery that has N Gift is Raintree nursery. Doesn't need a pollinizer. I think I have enough persimmon trees now. It was a very hot dry summer, I did not water them at all. There is a mature ornamental cherry about 20 feet away from the NG. The American persimmon is the focus here. Do you know could there any difference in the NG that Cliff offers versus Raintree, One Green World, or Burnt Ridge? Planning to plant american persimmon on the larger zone 6 acreage. Persimmon Trees - Nikita's Gift (Astringent). At least in past Lotus seemingly has been used alot on west coast trees and Virginiana by eastern nursery. Many thanks! Last year all fruit dropped mid season. https://permies.com/link/b6bfxe/Garden-Master-Course-Kickstarter, american persimmona drought resistant and delicious fruit and source of beautiful carving wood. So envious of you. This tree fruit is in the early stages of commercial production with many cultivars selected from the wild. This gallery has 2 photos. One of the top plant introductions to date, Nikitas Gift is a Ukrainian cross of American persimmon and Asian persimmon created at Nikita Botanic Garden in Yalta, Ukraine. Beautiful colors. One has nearly infinite room and is zone 6a (maybe even zone 5b) the other is in a downtown core microclimate closer to 7a with very limited space. Taste: Sweet and flavorful Ive noticed that persimmons seem to be more susceptible to transplantation shock, especially if theyre coming from bare root. it immediately started losing leaves and is basically dead at this point. He was rather emphatic that American Persimmons needed a pollinator. I suppose now is the time to apply it while the eggs are hatching? @Vincent_8B, nice photo with the pawpaws. A great quality fruit that ripens late season, reaches roughly 12-15 tall & is self-fertile. A great quality fruit with texture that varies with maturity. Size at Maturity:10-12 ft. in height I forgot to mention that my tree is on the north side of a privacy. We are not sure if these are Yates or Prok. Here are some pictures of the damage: You can see the little Saijo in the background on this one. Will now fertilize it as it survived our 105 deg F summers in east Sierra desert canyon at 4200' (Joshua Tree belt). Wase Fuyu Persimmon. The vine crops do need to be controlled or else they will take over the world and the Cornelian Cherries take forever to fruit but that's about all the work you're gonna do to grow them. I'll know when to pick next year. FREE shipping. However, I need to protect the Asian persimmons like a fig tree every winter. It went on for a month or more when my research lead me to check the tree during the night. This exciting new Persimmon hybrid Nikita's Gift is a cross between an American Persimmon variety (virginiana) and the Japanese Persimmon variety (kaki) and it gives us a wonderful fruit tree that is hardy to Zone 5. I've had years where one tree's fruit outshone everyone else and then the same tree was barely edible the following year. I have had great yields from a Meader persimmon for more than 10 years. Don't have one yet, but plan to get one in the food forest eventually. in height. Summers are pretty hot & humid & the soil has a lot of clay.Can u suggest any other self fertile American Persimmons That won't need to be babied?I have Li & Lang Jujubis, 2 pawpaws, a white mulberry, an everbearing Mulberry, Blk berries & raspberries that are doing well which are pretty care-free,(Organic). Fruits are more reminiscent of an astringent-til-ripe kaki than the typical virginiana - thicker skin that contains the soft, gelatinous pulp. My next challenge will be Chocolate (Tsurunoko?) I am new to this forum, but it looks very professional to me. Hardiness: Hardy to minus 10F or below Yates already finished producing. It is a lovely ornamental tree with drooping glossy green leaves and branches that give it a flowing, rather tropical look. But I know both from reading and personal experience that an all-female Prok (American) will produce seedless fruit -- and lots of it. By sharing experiences, we all learn more. Enter number. Small orchards of commercially available cultivars are planted in Kentucky. Only 3/5 bare root persimmons Ive planted, be it in large pots for now, were successful. Ripening Time:October Just looking for some ideas and a little reassurance from folks with more experience with them. It was slower getting established. I think wild persimmons taste better picked up after they fall but so does all the wildlife. Yes I battle them, well actually I just submit to them. In the 2nd week of February when the weather is a bit milder than I unwrapped it to avoid early budding and to avoid late frost damage. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. I dont post a lot but there arent a lot of people growing persimmons in the Pacific NW and I think the information might be helpful. AtPlant Me Greenwe handle, package and ship the products you order with the utmost care. Nikitas Gift Hybrid Persimmon grows 10-12 ft. in height, is self-fertile and hardy to minus 10 F. The Etsy Gift Guide. Dropping fruit last year and this year plus needing winter protection is a pain to grow it where I live. I did not have lck with Meader Persimmon. The persimmons at the Arboretum looked like they were in for a good season last I checked so I'm really hoping to get to taste some of these varieties I haven't had before. So my guess is, yes. It's a young tree and has a little too much shade. As with figs, you need to pay at least as much attention to the length of the growing season as to the absolute low temperatures in winter. There are two races of persimmon: the tetraploid (60-chromosome) race is centered in the southern Appalachian region, while the hexaploid (90-chromosome) race generally occupies a range north and west of the tetraploid range. A Natural Farm & Educational Center, 23630 SR19, Howey-in-the-Hills, FL 34737, U.S.A. Download our Current Complete Retail Availability List. This year 4 remain. RamV Ill look forward to reading about your experiences with H-118. If I pick too early they are only slightly sweet and when I pick when Ripe they are very sweet. I also have a 4yrs old Giant Hana Fuyu and an Ichi Kei Jiro Kaki persimmons are loaded with fruit right now too. . 432 Burnt Ridge Road. I planted a large NG persimmon early November of last year. so being put in a box for a few days tends to upset her. If I don't, the Asian persimmon trees will die to the snow line. If so does it take long to fruit? Maybe its warmer in town. Ive found that they prefer cherry and then plum leaves. The bright reddish-orange fruit is about 3" wide and somewhat flattened on top. My three others started bearing minus 10F or below Yates already finished producing season reaches! 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