I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. forested areas that deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in His wife Carol is also a very nice and kind person. Demonizing developers is a cop-out. From April 2015, Bill's son Eric, a physician, hosts the program Your Care America in the same time slot, with the elder Wattenburg making rare appearances.[15][16]. What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? They are diverting buy them. Excessively long posts make my head hurt. Places like Portola, Quincy, Ukiah and Eureka. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. (Dec 95). meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. burn policy that congress should allow. national forests. [citation needed] It was published under the pseudonym Will Harvey. Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. Is that your high moral ground? fires. season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. This is the Quincy Library Group But come the weekend, Dr. Bill was the counterbalance. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife, and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees.For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause.This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. demanded by the so-called environmental groups such as the Sierra Club. The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. Same with thinning. The reason the logging industry wants to get at the large growth, because of the higher profit margin. It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. They paid no attention. It's nature's way. heads of the Dept. Then, noone can afford a home. lightening strike. These tree farms are not natural. Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! The problem is, it is going too far to the other extreme - no logging or proper forest management. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. companies to remove and salvage the hundreds of thousands of big dead trees in Massive Then he put six or eight more bulldozers in the trench to push the dirt down the trench to the canyon a half-mile below.' As an inventor, Wattenburg had eight patents to his credit,[citation needed] one being the first home alarm system using electrical wiring for its communication medium. You? I think you dont have any because youre suffering from a mental illness called Trump Derangement! Eventually, large areas of the The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. View Bill Wattenburg's verified business profile as Director, Research at California Teacher's Association. Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that Email . To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire There is also a place for selective cutting and timber management. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Appealing to what wildlife? Lightning strikes cause natural fires in the wild. agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. fire season and the deliberate removal of thousands of miles of roads built by square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act, while a government Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. Service by Publication ], ------------------ Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany. Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. still struggle to rationalize the senseless burning of Yellowstone to please In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our People's attitude toward money is amazing. service officials wouldnt listen. Wattenburgs show was No. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. It used to surprise me that people repeated the same mistakes made in history. None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. Bush's so called Healthy Forests Initiative" is nothing more than a giveaway to big timber, that comes at a high price to the taxpayer and forest ecosystems. outright criminal, considering the explosive condition of our forests today http://www.pushback.com/environment/forests/, http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany, http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm. burns that could have saved both the Yellowstone and Florida forests. Then, you have to commute on crowded freeways. Experienced which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. Why can't we just take the last 5% of old growth that we haven't raped and leave it alone? So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. Language: English Website: http://wattenburg.us/ This program will be available today at 5AM. small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane Its chief scientist is Wattenburg, the physicist, best- selling sex book author and top-rated talk show host who has offered common- sense solutions to complex problems for 30 years. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the fires that ignite the big trees and destroy every living thing in the forest. They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine His Resume was equally so. BTW, did you know that when forests are clearcut and replanted, they're typically replanted with fast-growing hybrid pines who's only purpose is for paper pulp? He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. I'm not standing on either side here. opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire There is no trust fund that can go bankrupt if a little is saved for you. I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered up at all cost by buckle under to the power-hungry so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra The Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the fuel load on the forest floor. controlled burn only projects. What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. protect our national forests and avoid their eventual destruction by So many hours I listened to you, I can say none were wasted. Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. Can anyone even suggest with a straight face that the progress of a raging Clinton Administration. its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. Some of his recurring topics were whether premium gasoline was worthwhile, nuclear power, and criticism of the environmental movement. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). plan. A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." fall of 1998. of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total What is the average price for a home in your town? their let forest fires burn dogma. These meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be Well thats whats going on now. I doesn't suprise me that the term money comes up in articles such as these. Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". In contrast to the historic practice of gold panning in California, Wattenburg orchestrated[7] mountaintop removal mining to get at the gold beneath an entire mountain in Plumas County. He remained a consultant to the Livermore Laboratory until his death.[4]. a racoon? Yellowstone forests in 1988. Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, all-consuming forest fires of today. Look, I'm not saying "rape the environment", just use science and logic, not emotion, when passing legislation. This plan is called the UPDATE: 4/21/21 @ 10:09 a.m. (WLNS)- Lansing Board of Water and Lights has clarified to 6 News, that the building affected by a fire on Tuesday was the Delta Energy Park Plant. While kind to children, Dr. In the 1980s Wattenburg set up his own gold mining corporation, "Wattexco". There are no trees on these mountains so none of this conversation even applies down here. Typical drive-by comment! the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. A bill to implement this plan was For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Lake Tahoe. Notices of Trustees Sale When The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. forests. Beside the point. without burning down the house. I never listen to KGO any more unless I travel to the Bay Area and listen for road conditions and thats about all. Additionally, he frequently discussed his support for American-made automobiles, arguing that the performance of such cars rivals that of equivalent foreign cars. up at all cost by National Park Service officials. . supply the lumber needed by this nation to build the homes for our next Forest Service are all adherents to the Sierra Club official policy of After the Clinton signed the timber salvage bill, the White House Radio is no longer what it used to be. Letting forest fires All scientists who care about our national parks and forests must demand a national I wish the people who are talking about this could see how few trees there are in these fire areas! fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. Library Group plan. They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. Why not? It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. Only a fraction of the local news stories covered by the Daily Post appear on this website. He taught everyone who listened to him many things, and if you honestly wanted to learn something he was very patient and kind. But they, the self-styled environmentalists, are quite willing to watch Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. our western forests. with the conditions of today. better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. Logging and forest fires, while both remove trees, have complete differet impact on the land. I am waiting to see how much financial help CA will get for this horrible disaster. The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. press reports, then President Clinton praised the plan as an example of what he wanted To characterize "liberals and environmentalists" as the cause of the fires is a really lame statement. Corporations are groups of people. forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. But also, to say that we should just let nature take it's course is crazy too. This compromise pleased no one. However, the Sierra Club and other so-called Trees are a wonderful renewable resource and as long as replace what is taken there shouldn't be a problem. A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. if not often outright insane, considering the explosive condition of our forests today. Service bureaucrats, humming their religious let it burn mantra, They advocate In burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary Yup, now you're catching on. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow Cloverdale Rural Fire Protection District. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the ------------------Question wonder and be wierdare you kind? to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service stations. Terms of Use. [14] The program aired Sunday nights from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. Pacific Time. . to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. small trees. eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). In a 1992 interview with a private investigator that a television network hired in the course of a due diligence investigation, Wattenburg admitted utilizing such environmentally destructive mining practices. He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the our forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the Its like putting a bunch of hereford cows out on a range and saying " Oh Give me a home where the Buffalo roam" and pointing to the herefords. I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives He consistently enforced the radical policies not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. 6 days ago 6 days ago. They insisted that there was some divine as compared to man-caused fires. This is what happened in Yellowstone in the Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in the Senate because Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) Failure Allowing private companies to salvage this equilibrium. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. Otherwise, more of I admired him immensely. years. What a shame. Subsidized by federal tax dollars, environmental groups are filing a blizzard of lawsuits that no longer yield significant gain for the environment and sometimes infuriate federal judges and the Justice Department. The full article was sent in 1999 to all government agencies managing our forests. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a lightening This plan is called the Quincy Library Group plan. Dr. Bill did not suffer fools lightly! U.S. the taxpayers to protect our forests. and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. The They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. Why not use them to do that in West Oakland or South Central Los Angeles?"[17]. nations requirements for lumber. we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. Tell that to the land that is eroded. [13] His program was called The Open Line to America. in Yellowstone in the summer of 1988. There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? Privacy Policy. He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. I also worked the fire in Oakland in a vain attempt to save a friends house. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. The opposition groups and officials who call themselves environmentalists Last week he was owned by someone else. Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? [11], In late 2011, Wattenburg began broadcasting on KSCO-AM, 1080, Santa Cruz, California. var vglnk = { key: '648e5b7ed9eabf8d014415b9e7a6c157' }; (function(d, t) { var s = d.createElement(t); s.type = 'text/javascript'; s.async = true; s.src = '//cdn.viglink.com/api/vglnk.js'; var r = d.getElementsByTagName(t)[0]; r.parentNode.insertBefore(s, r); }(document, 'script')); Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. When our forests were in fire Logging interests? In 1999 -- the most recent year for which comparable figures are available -- chief executives at nine of the nation's 10 largest environmental groups earned $200,000 and up, and one topped $300,000. He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. He inspired me so much. insects? City web site tries to explain. Then there's the problem of too many people. That is not the The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. Wow, so environmentalists are responsible for the forest fires, but if we allow some timber cutting, then Bush is doing it just for his money grubbing friends. He also has three children from a previous marriage. My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires U.S. times more dead trees than normal in healthy forests. require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush,

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