Her name was Jane Fonda. CHRIS WALLACE: When you got that nickname Hanoi Jane, how did you feel at the time? NORTH (voice-over): Thirty-five hundred Marines came ashore. I hardly even think about where I am sitting. Hundreds of Americans had gone to North Vietnam, journalists diplomats, our Secretary of State Ramsey Clark, Vietnam veterans, but I said but a movie star hasnt gone and maybe if I go it will draw more attention, and thats what it did. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. 1991) Pages 225-229. The "New World Order" of the capitalists and the communists is not "Jewish", sir. Credit: Bettmann Archive/Getty Images "It was a very tumultuous and polarized time," she said in the HBO documentary. However, the allegation that she abused American POWs is not true. On a hot, stickyMay afternoon in 1970,a crowd of several thousand students and protesterstook over the University of Maryland mall. That begs the question, responsible for what? She did not merely criticize the authoritarian government of South Vietnam, or the dubious motives of powerful corporations that make up the American military-industrial complex. We have no right to bomb military targets in Vietnam. This is not a legal transcript for purposes of litigation. I think that there is a lot of selectivity going on. JANE FONDA: it was a mistake to go, I never wanted to go to any military installations. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. Over the years, as Fonda reinvented herself as a fitness maven and again a movie star, she apologized many times for the antiaircraft gunphoto. officers, toward the Chinese border amid cries of protest from Wall Street which feared war with "our trading partner" Red China. I sang a song. Its more than being a traitor; millions of Americans felt treasonous during that war. Then Dr. Spock attacked the Vietnam draft. Subsequently communist China was awarded a permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council, its most powerful chair. Hanoi Jane told 60 Minutes that photos snapped while she sat on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal and the largest lapse of judgment I can imagine. Though she did say, meeting the locals, other artists, and intellectuals were well worth it. And heres Cat Ballou, the beautiful daughter of Young Abe Lincoln, of Mister Roberts, beaming down from a machine designed to kill them. On campus, she was pushing her movement to turn U.S. soldiers into pacifists. [5]http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp; http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm; http://www.truthminers.com/truth/hanoi_jane.htm; cited on November 24, 2004. Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. Putnams Sons. Hardly misdirected anger, Jane Fonda really was merely a silly and shallow child of privilege who allowed herself to be used for propaganda. Megyn Kelly ended her 12-year run with Fox News in early 2017 in exchange for a weekday show at NBC. But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription!, In replying, I discovered that the Good Book notwithstanding, a soft answer turneth away wrath no more than zo percent of the time. It evidently didnt. Fonda consorted with the enemy and made propaganda broadcasts on their behalf. They called it FTA, which they said stood for Free the Army, but it was also a not-so-subtle nod to the expression f the Army.. The cover called her Ms. They held signs that read Forgive? JANE FONDA: Well, I didnt like it. This thread gives me a great chance to ask veterans a question that has always bothered me. Here it is. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. But look, you have more to talk to us about something you're going to show us. CHRIS WALLACE: So when you say it was a terrible mistake. . I'm sorry I hurt you, Alan, and I hope you can forgive me." In 1972, actress Jane Fonda traveled to North Vietnam on an anti-war mission. She was a symbol of a divided nation. Its folklore, but folklore of a curiously evolved sort. quote: Jane didnt make her infamous and idiotic trip to Hanoi until 1972. And the more they tried, the more I. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. It hurts me, she said, and it will to my grave that I made a huge, huge mistake that made a lot of people think I was against the soldiers., The Dragon Lady: How Madame Nhu helped escalate the Vietnam War. After all, she is an American; surely shell carry the message home to the families that their husband or son is alive. She went to Hanoi that year to tour villages, cities and infrastructure. A series of photos of her sitting at an NVA anti-aircraft battery earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane and the undying spite of Vietnam veterans everywhere. There were also rumors she turned over secret messages from POWs to their captors. Why are people more angry at Jane Fonda that they are against, say, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon, the people really responsible? Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured., Also Read: How Jane Fonda Explains 'Hanoi Jane': 'Regret to My Dying Day', Even she had to apologize years later for that gun picture True. . It was the last day of my two week time there. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. We have no right to attack that country. NORTH: And mine too, brother, even after 37 years. No one with half a brain took Jane Fonda seriously then, or for that matter, now. That's an apology. Do any right-wingers ever decry the fact that Bush and the conservatives overthrew Aristide because he was a socialists----then invited the Chinese Communists in to our hemisphere? This, probably more than anything, earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane.. In 2015, about 50 veterans stood outside theWeinberg Center for the Arts in Frederick, Md., to protest Fondas appearance there. Mr. Nolan wrote something that helped me better understand the fury of this sort of reaction. In it, she apologizes once again for insulting the men and women who fought in Vietnam. WebDaughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. Thus, Europe, Russia, China, Korea, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Thailand, Japan, the Middle East were turned into killing grounds, and their existing governments destroyed. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. . Which is precisely why U.S. liberals so vehemently protested U.S. involvement - and that is the only reason - we were destroying their comrades the communists. So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. I mean, you know, of all manner of slings and arrows were thrown my way. re: Jane Fonda visiting BR this weekend Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:43 am to Chipand2Putts. Others were hoping to catch a glimpse of a famous Hollywood actress. His alliance with the Reds made sense, since both upheld elite control of the world. officer gets an idea. I mean, he realized that. Thousands more were on the way, including Ernie Wallace (ph) and Ed Grummett. Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. Shewas arrested before she got the chance, just as she had been at Fort Lewis, Wash., Fort Hood, Tex., and Fort Bragg, N.C. Fonda told The Post shed made talking to GIs herfull-time job. Fonda told Wallace that she did not like the nickname she was given, but she stuck by her choice to oppose the war. But it wasnt untilshe traveled to Hanoi in July 1972 that she really enraged criticsand fundamentally altered how the world viewed her for decades to come. mode: 'thumbnails-b', Mr. Nolan wrote something that helped me better understand the fury of this sort of reaction. Libertarian commentator Jedediah Bila appeared on Fox's "Outnumbered" and later turned up on ABC's "The View.". Fonda moves down the line, greeting each man with encouragements like Arent you ashamed you killed babies? as she shakes his hand. I dont think they know, Fonda said in a news conference when she returned home. Now, I can't judge her heart but it's a different manifestation of Christianity than John Paul II (search). And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. Please support this 72-year tradition of trusted historical writing and the volunteers that sustain it with a donation to American Heritage. For the next severalyears, Fonda would continue as one of the most prominent public faces in the antiwar movement. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. If you must know, my original draft did make reference to the one true story that you mentioned. CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? Her book just may not make the bestseller Fonda addresses the media in December 1972 to protest U.S. military involvement in the Vietnam War. 5:15 After numerous apologies over four decades, its time to let Hanoi Jane Fonda off the hook for Vietnam. quote: Fonda was a political activist in the counterculture era during the Vietnam War. All Rights Reserved, Copyright MAGA Conservatives. Thank you, sir. Support with a donation>>. But the reality of it is, Alan, this is a woman,who I quite frankly feel sorry for. In 1972, the Academy Award-winning actress and activist traveled to North Vietnam and was photographed laughing and clapping along with Vietnamese soldiers. I went to a session at the 2003 Peace History Society Conference in Mt. She still does not know what she did wrong. [2] While criticizing America, she made laudatory comments about the Soviet Union. I wanted to tell them what I was seeing as an American on the ground there. Whether Fonda wanted to shame troops is subjective. "Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. She posed on an anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. Fonda said that whileshe may have been tricked into taking the picture, The buck stops here. I think so, and I would hope that all Americans will at least speak their minds at the movie box office and refuse to further enrich one of the greatest American traitors. A young photographer took this harrowing image of the Vietnam War. Switch to the light mode that's kinder on your eyes at day time. I mean, the fact is, there's no statute on treason, by the way. The alleged mission was to prevent communism from spreading to South Korea, a peninsula pointed at now disarmed Japan. I mean, he realized that . Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. Did our government lie to us during Vietnam? He didnt live to see it published. We're trained. All were hired by Roger Ailes, the former network boss who exited in August 2016 amid a sexual harassment scandal. Many Americans traveled to Vietnam on peace delegations to end the war, yet it was Jane Fonda who was captured as a timeless image when she was photographed looking through a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun. However, since the majority of the stories cited in the e-mail have no proof behind them, I had to either give the e-mail "thumbs down" or "thumbs up" on the basis of the overall validity. (Later, after 58,152 American dead were just names on a wall, declassified US Navy logs revealed there had been no torpedo attack!). HANNITY: Is Jane Fonda really sorry or just trying to sell her brand new book? Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure. These men were bombing and strafing and napalming the country, she said, according to an Associated Press report in April 1973, which quoted an interview she gave to KNBC-TV in Los Angeles. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Fonda traveled to Hanoi, Vietnam, to protest the Vietnam War, but she did not do most of the things the post claims. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. Jane Fonda sparked outrage among war veterans when she was pictured sitting on an anti-aircraft gun in 1972 during the Vietnam War, earning her the nickname Hanoi Jane. Even Trotsky, whose philosophy I do not advocate, could see this relationship between the capitalists and the communists clearly (hypocritically denouncing it, since he went along with it). I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. He was Americas most famous pediatrician. Ms. Fonda only met with those POW's who had sold out their fellow POW's, who willingly (without torture) made propaganda statements for their captors, and who enjoyed privileges of medical care, food, and even night-time excursions into Hanoi to watch movies in return. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. Those words were written by Michael Benge, a civilian advisor captured by the Viet Cong in 1968 and held as a POW for 5 years. Congress held hearings. NORTH (on camera): What did the guys in your squad say about this? Rumors spread and still persist that she betrayed them by accepting secret notes and then turning them over to the North Vietnamese. All rights reserved. . Quite the contrary. The actual allegation took the form of an email citing the alleged experiences of a number of Viet Nam War veterans at the hands of Jane Fonda. No article of ours gets hundreds of letters, but this one did, very few of them friendly. Now, aid and comfort can be measured a lot of ways. It is giving them the advantage of the propaganda visibility that this woman lent to them. Many Americans disapproved of Fondas comments They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. But literally working hand-in-hand with the enemy to promote their cause to a worldwide audience was not protected by the First Amendment then just as it is not protected now. JANE FONDA: it was a mistake to go, I never wanted to go to any military installations. It meant re-taking the same bloody ground over and over again. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? But also admits to consulting with psychics. One of the times it did, Im happy to say, was with Keith Nolan, the author of several books on the war, most recently Ripcord , a superb account of the 101st Airborne in the conflicts last great battle. True. However, the fact that she advocated Communism does not give anyone license to make up stories or slander. Kelly responded with a cannon by bringing up the time Fonda posed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. It is possible that the Vietnamese had it all planned. The POWs are beaten. As anyone who knew or worked with me in those years knows my heart has always been with the soldiers. Also Read: Megyn Kelly Trashed by Rosie O'Donnell as 'Spineless Wanna Be Barbie' for Jane Fonda Spat. The war was being fought by the air during during the Nixon administration. The answer, of course, is that they won't. Screw you. The Nixon Justice Department poured over the transcripts of my broadcasts trying to find a way to put me on trial for treason but they could find none. No, after the Left's "victory" in the United State's withdrawal from Southeast Asia, the matter of consequences was conveniently dropped from the discussion. The day anti-Vietnam War protesters tried to levitate the Pentagon. When Rockefeller said what he said about the Cultural Revolution (in an Op Ed that I read long ago, attesting to its existence), he was addressing the Communist system as a Fascist system with potential for realizing corporate/banker control much more than as a "Marxist" system. It may be an old story, but being that she never stood trial for her actions still make her case an open book. I sang a song. "Happening Now" anchor Jenna Lee announced that she was leaving the Fox Newsafter working there for 10 years. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. Politicians make mistakes that affect the body politic and statesmen sometimes direct a foreign policy that disregards individuals in the national interest. The cover called her Ms. It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that itis possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese had it all planned.. She claimed she was sexually harassed by correspondent Brian Wilson and later spoke out against Fox News' culture after the Ailes scandal broke. The other stories allege a far more direct participation in war crimes on the part of Fonda. Free shipping for many products! You have "War Stories" coming up. Fondas wide-ranging response went from apologetic to defiant and everywhere in between: CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. During the photo sessions during her visit to Vietnam, she strongly believed were setups and a grave mistake on her part. But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. The charges against Fonda went beyond the notion that she was an apologist for the mistreatment of American prisoners of war. For example, she went on Radio Hanoi a number of times, while our troops, your friends, were being shot at by an enemy in Vietnam, saying our POWs were in good health. William Burkhead, a Democrat from Anne Arundel, said, I wouldnt want to kill her, but I wouldnt mind if you cut her tongue off, according to a Post story. I mean, that's like the bank robber saying, "I'm sorry I got caught.". Chiang refused to be extorted, citing his revulsion of the international banking cartel. Her lawsuit started it all: Former Fox host Gretchen Carlson claims Ailes repeatedly sexually harassed her. [2] Peter Collier, The Fondas; A Hollywood Dynasty. Even so, I'm going to keep an eye open to purchase one of the urinal mats with her photograph depicted upon it. CHRIS Among the products sold expressing veterans' disdain for Fonda are a variety of bumper stickers, envelope stickers, sew-on patches, but evidently D&G no longer carries my favorite Fonda item, a urinal pad depicting Jane Fonda's photograph. After all, she is an American; surely shell carry the message home to the families that their husband or son is alive. Mao Tse-Tung, of "Little Red Book" fame, and darling of the New York-Hollywood "elite", then proceeded to murder 65 million of his countrymen in what David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski call "a glorious revolution." Greta Van Susteren -- who had been one of Ailes' most stalwart defenders -- left in early September 2016 after saying that Fox had "not felt like a home" for years. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, "WAR STORIES": Actually, she's not really apologizing. "Because of this," the narrative continues, "I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped." In her book, she says she's a Christian. wars the intention of which is not to win but to bleed) is quite plausible. Screw you. She called our POWs hypocrites and liars and referred to their torture as understandable. And I refused to have them scare me away from being actively against the Vietnam War. During her two-week stay, Fonda concluded that America was unjustly bombing farmland and areas far flung from military targets. For 70 years, American Heritage has been the leading magazine of U.S. history, politics, and culture. And the question I have is 50 years later, how do you look back on that particular chapter? Fonda has refused to tell her side of the story to historians investigating her role, purportedly because she was saving her story for her own memoirs, which are expected to be published soon. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. So did Joan Baez and William Sloane Coffin, Noam Chomsky and Pete Seeger, Rennie Davis and Judy Collins. Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. As in Korea, communist spies within the U.S. government released vital information to the enemy. Fonda wasnt deterred. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. But because of the nature of Vietnam, McNamara said to me, if wed known what we know now it would have we should not have gone out. During an interview with Barbara Walters 35 years ago, Oscar-winning actress Jane Fonda apologized for being used as propaganda for North Vietnam when we were still fighting North Vietnam. Deprived of American assistance, his army bereft of supplies, Chiang Kai-Shek retreated to the island sanctuary of Formosa and dug in. But newly discovered tapes tell a very, very different story. At that time, over 60,000 American soldiers had lost their lives, and almost one million Vietnamese. [1] Cited on November 24, 2004. It was the last day of my two week time there. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. But she was advised by other activists to focus her political energies, deciding to go all-in as an impassioned voice for the antiwar movement. She said: I have very few regrets. In her 2005 memoir, My Life So Far, Fonda wrote of the infamous photo this way: Still,for some veterans, no apology from Fonda will ever change their views of her as an adversaryof America and the troops during wartime. I plead with him, You have to be sure those photographs are not published. Yeah, said my stepdaughter, Jill, when I told her about this. However, you may note that the Left still presumes to lecture the rest of us often concerning foreign policy on a regular basis. It sounds loony until you actually think about it - and the general thesis of "no-win wars" (i.e. 's and eMediaMillWorks, Inc.'s copyrights or other proprietary rights or interests in the material. CHRIS WALLACE: When you got that nickname Hanoi Jane, how did you feel at the time? She is the daughter of legendary actor and WWII Naval Officer Henry Fonda. I want you to go home and say, "I'm sorry I got caught doing the wrong thing.". "War Stories," Colonel, we'll be watching this Sunday, 8 p.m. as usual. And the question I have is 50 years later, how do you look back on that particular chapter? I remember one retired lieutenant colonel describing a conversation he had with an angry trooper about the treasonous behavior of Jane Fonda in the midst of the 1968 Tet Offensive. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? If even one of them were true, it would change the entire focus of my article. And number three: you've got the propaganda broadcasts themselves, where she substitutes for Hanoi Hannah, who broadcasts to the American troops all the time. In 1972, Fonda toured North Vietnam, where she spoke against U.S. military policy in the country. Now, I leave it NORTH: Well, yes, as a matter of fact I think she is. And the more they tried, the more. In Hanoi, Fonda also met with seven American POWs and later said they asked her to tell their friends and family to support presidential candidate George McGovern; they feared theyd never be freed during a Richard Nixon administration. The media heaped calumny on U.S. military leadership; presented biased, horrifying scenes depicting "the wanton killing of Vietnamese civilians", and the "degeneracy" of our fighting men and women. The chance to remake oneself is a universally acknowledged strength of this Republic, and the Republic itself has done it often enough. It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that it is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese In 2005, she apologized again on 60 Oh, my God. . Whereupon Truman dismissed MacArthur for insubordination. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. She was young and famous at the time, maybe the Iraqi insurgents could get some of the present crop of empty headed celebrities, Britney Spears perhaps, to pose next to those Muslim mopes in robes and head towels while they aim their weapons. . Kelly was defending herself after Fonda said over the weekend that the question was so inappropriate and that Kelly is not that good an interviewer.. And exocide (ph) and biocide. 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